Would these sea steads have a military?


#22

And, yet, here we are. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

DUH. :open_mouth:

I wrote that you are full of bull, Elmo.

You respond.

Hmmm … communication happened.

Funny how that works. :unamused:


(Wilfried Ellmer) #23

Security force on a Seastead - violently subduing a citicen and finally breastfeeding him down the rightous path…(silicon reforced) @jwliberstead | those girls can certainly take care of a desperate somali seaman | i like the word “ammosexual” …but beer belly and gun is so boring…i vote for ammo-phantasize something more sexy in the second edition of Liberty Awash. Remember the task is to make Seasteading attractive to investors and the general public.


**Hypothesis:** It is not important who has the guns anymore - it is important where money and investment is... | [marine come together based on economic power - not military](https://discuss.seasteading.org/t/violence-in-international-politics-is-still-a-strong-kung-fu-doubth-that/377) |

(Wilfried Ellmer) #24

**Hypothesis:** Nobody is shooting out marine affairs in [19.Century gunboat politics](https://discuss.seasteading.org/t/the-ugly4-definition-oceanic-freedom-with-footnote/334/8?u=ellmer) style anymore...
To understand what is going on in our world [follow the money](https://discuss.seasteading.org/t/to-understand-what-is-going-on-in-our-world-follow-the-money/387) not the news...about "combatants around the world"...this is "[panem et circenses](https://www.google.at/?gws_rd=ssl#q=panem+et+circenses)" for the dumb voter folk...and to justify the next military budget ... for the taxpayer...

(Wilfried Ellmer) #25

oceanic business alliance is a / opt in / opt out | group based on voluntary colaboration of people who are interested in the business of ocean colonization…we do no commercials…we are a collaboration network not a Company selling something. We share a parallel interest with TSI we want to see ocean colonization happen. And we incline to “forment a intelligent discourse about the topic” to get intelligent investors to it. | what you should know about me |


Hypothesis: Seasteading budgets should be spent on [something more useful](https://discuss.seasteading.org/t/offshore-aquaculture-realistic-projects-big-business-seafood-ocean-colonization-ocean-ranching-oceanic-investment-world-food-security/1631) than military

#26

2015 Terrorist attack killing cruise ship passengers belies your wishful thinking, @ellmer


#27

You continually flood this forum with advertising for your bogus ‘business alliance’. THE ONLY 'BUSINESS" you want is for people to give you a fully detailed, fully optimized business plan and/or money to fulfill YOUR unbuildable fantasies, the same way you invited me, then demanded money to present my concept to the supposed ‘investors’ that you had said already had access to my posts. Topping that, you had the place locked, to keep my ‘membership’ locked in, until it finally took Randolph and Joe requesting you delete to my account.


(adam ulbrich) #28

yea thats what i was thinking what if pirates come armed what do you do then? that is why seasteads need a very small military or more of a police force.


#29

Yeah … sure … :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: … a “voluntary colaboration of people” who have to pay you membership fees … and then get screwed nothing unless they “invest” in some scheme that never seems to come to fruition.

Bean count your posts, @ellmer, and subtract every thread where you promoted your grand “oceanic business alliance”

… and what’s left after that subtraction?

Not much. :open_mouth:

Elmo doesn’t engage in very many comment threads where he doesn’t somehow promote the “oceanic business alliance”.

But … but … but … sputter, sputter … “we do no commercials”.

Yeah … Sure. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:


#30

Except … your post, Elmo, …
… contains TWO links that lead …
… to your own web site …

and those pages …
SOLICIT FUNDS FROM “INVESTORS”.

:open_mouth:

But you “do no commercials”. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

You’re full of bull, Elmo.

So full of it that …
… your eyes are turning brown. :smirk:


#31

Elmo’s posts are all about …
.


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#32

and …


#33

and …


#34

… and, yet, all of these “solicitations from investors” by Elmo are not a “commercial”. :open_mouth::smirk::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:


#35

But … but … but … sputter, sputter …

:stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:


(Wilfried Ellmer) #36

@BobDohse | Is there a debate worty point behind the clutter ? or or is your intention just trolling and disturbing here ? Anything smart to say why seasteads should / should not have a military and how it might look like ?


**Context:** 7.5 billion people on the planet means "[millions of nutcases](https://discuss.seasteading.org/t/seasteading-cafe/1917/19)" all connected to this thread - the question is - do we really want to argue with all of them ? - [or do we limit](https://discuss.seasteading.org/t/evolutionary-context-seasteading-ocean-colonization/1941/14?u=ellmer) ? ...for the sake of progress.
| attack personal animosity etc in the [Cafe](https://discuss.seasteading.org/t/seasteading-cafe/1917) please - keep the threads on topic | negativity attack as [contributions](https://discuss.seasteading.org/t/picture-the-ramform-get-invested-get-started-oceanic-business-alliance/640/312?u=ellmer) not prone to create a positive future | why seasteading is [underevaluated](https://discuss.seasteading.org/t/seasteading-is-underevaluated-as-investment-field-fix-that-perception-error/183) by investors | **Hypothesis:** Overhang of AmmoMilitary (and other) nonsense talk on the forums (during the last 10 years) could be a possible reason... |

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(Gavin Brown) #37

Spot on, and as you say I would have a star trek style training academy for everyone so if required everyone could chip in but would have their own specialities.


(Matias Volco) #38

This is a pressing problem in a completely interconnnected and somewhat free world, as Kurzweil said: it’s like a million fingers on the nuclear button.
We are progrssing towards being on the same boat (which becomes smaller by the day), or “spaceship Earth”.
If human success on the long run depends on colonizing other planets (diversifying), then in the immediate future it depends on fully exploring and diversifying wiithin this planet, beyond the atmosphere

The first season of ammo-realted Tv show “The Last Ship” provides a good example of such human habitat diversification: a long range seagoing vessel providing a compartiment that survives a World Pandemic unscathed and unnoticing.


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#39

If you don’t want people to point out that you are lying, Wilfried Ellmer …

… then don’t post your lies in THIS comment thread.

If you don’t want people to point out that you are posting commercials for your private scheme, Wilfried Ellmer …

… then don’t post your commercials in THIS comment thread.

Simple enough, even for you, Elmo. :open_mouth:


#40

And, yet, here we are, debating Elmo’s commercials …

… because ELMO has to somehow defend the real reason for his posts …

… that are merely commericals for his private “investment” scheme.

Elmo claims to be above the fray and will stick strictly to “security” …

and yet he posts commercials …

… while telling others to go to a different thread to criticize Elmo’s commercials.

Yeah … sure, Elmo. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:


#41

Your turn, @Elmo.

Dazzle us with more of your brilliant rhetoric …

… that demonstrates your are posting commercials …

… even in the very posts where you deny that your posts are merely commercials for you private “investment” scheme.

You are so full of it, Elmo …

… that your eyes are turning brown. :open_mouth: