Seasteading Delegation To Meet With French Polynesian President


(Randolph Hencken) #1
http://www.presidence.pf/index.php/met-filtre/3058-rencontre-avec-l-equipe-de-l-institut-seasteading
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at http://www.seasteading.org/2016/09/seasteading-delegation-meet-french-polynesian-president/

(Wilfried Ellmer) #2

@joequirk, @RandolphHencken

Joe, a great opportunity to put Seasteading on the media centerstage and possibly get some connections that lead to Phase 1 business ventures down the road

Keep up the good work… Congrats from Oceanic Business Alliance !

Kindest Regards,

Wilfried Ellmer


(Renan) #3

This is great! Congratulations on the amazing job :slight_smile:


#4

Will be interested in seeing the video, as well as the engineering and economic proposals. Logistics for supply/resupply, energy and food production, as well as waste handling aspects.

Congrats on another presentation and potential location.

[Jeff Frusha](http://gulfsteading.freeforums.net/


(Matias Volco) #5

Great news! Tahiti already revolutionized hotels with overwater bungalows, orbiting floating islands should be next.


(Wilfried Ellmer) #6

@RandolphHencken | @joequirk | Presidential Foto - that is definitly an important step on “getting attention” to seasteading - Congrats !!! - is the future of real estate and development on the ocean ? (682)…


(Matias Volco) #7

I can’t wait to see the NHK piece, it’s very exciting to see Seasteading from a different and very worthy perspective.

I’d love to know what concerns Polynesians the most, I’ve noticed islands in general usually share a similar set of challenges imposed by a seemingly impossible balance between the preservation of isolation and the neccessities of connection. This experience is invaluable as it offers a concentrated version of the planet.


(Blair) #8

Don’t know what effect, if any, this would have on a seastead in the Polynesia area but is something that might ought to be looked into:

French nuclear tests 'showered vast area of Polynesia with radioactivity’


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(Wilfried Ellmer) #9

Hawaii | Guam | US territories | might be interesting candidates in the context of the Jones Act…strangling business with 4 times the necessary transport cost…


#10

Not like distance from sources is an issue, or anything…


(Wilfried Ellmer) #11

Taiwan -> Seattle $ 211
Taiwan -> Seattle -> Hawaii $ 988

The “distance from stupid politcs and artificial trade barriers” is what matters most…check the price structure…:relaxed: - to “get a clear picture” and “size things correctly”. (once on the ocean physical distance becomes almost irrelevant - a container can go anywhere a ship can go - it is fast and economic - we call that GLOBALIZATION … and global oceanic container trade. The only barrier and cost driver remaining is POLITICS.


• Seasteading is a highly efficient tool to drive anachronistic legislation and monoply style protection politics back - for the good of all mankind.


• Polynesia as the “most oceanic of all nations” can take the leadership in this process…


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#12

You fail to include the REASON shipping that furniture cost so much…

The ship can’t unload in Hawaii, so had to go to California, then the delivery continued by smaller vessel capable of the delivery…

I DID say distance was a factor.


(Matias Volco) #13

96 year old protectionist laws conceived for the Mississipi River drive up cost in less immutable ways than the location of a volcanic sland.

Novak believes businesses have difficulty surviving in Hawaii largely due to the high shipping costs. For that, he blames The Jones Act, also known as The Merchant Marine Act of 1920.

“I’m sure there was some good intention and purpose for (The Jones Act) back then. But I would like to know one good reason that it is a good thing for Hawaii and its people today,” he says.

Under the act, vessels that transport cargo or passengers between two U.S. ports must be U.S. flagged, U.S. crewed, U.S. owned and U.S. built. Those rules apply to any ship that brings cargo to Hawaii from the U.S. West Coast – the main lifeline of goods for the Islands.

Foreign carriers cannot compete under those rules, and opponents say the lack of competition drives up the cost of shipping and contributes to Hawaii’s high cost of living.

When Novak exports from Hawaii to Dubay the products have to U Turn to California.


#14

Po-tay-to/Po-tah-to

It’s still the same problem. Hawaii doesn’t have the capacity to serve the big carriers, which is WHY the cargo goes through California, off-loaded, then transferred to a different vessel, regardless of going to Hawaii, or coming from Hawaii.

Without the ability to have the larger ships pick up, or deliver, it’s a moot point, and irrelevant. Jones Act has nothing to do with the lack of facilities, in Hawaii,to handle the larger cargo ships.


(Wilfried Ellmer) #15

French Polynesia seems to have a different vision about oceanic business than US politics coined in the 20 ties…that might be a reason why they obviously endorse the TSI way and worldviews…


For old style politicians ( and their traditional voter folk) times are changing fast already now - but things are going to become really wired in a few years from now…just wait for it…

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