Podcast: Texas Lawyer interviews Seavangelist. Politically Fight or Create?

(joequirk) #1

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We’ve switched things up for this installment of Seasteading Today. Rather than have Joe Quirk interview a seasteader, our accomplished Board member Susanna Dokupil interviewed Joe.

This podcast is an excellent primer on the fundamental world view of seasteading. Joe shares and defends several core tenets of why human capacity is better spent pioneering new societies at sea in contrast to trying to change big, old governments through the standard political process.

Susanna resides in Houston, Texas where she co-chaired the National Finance Committee for Ted Cruz’s Senate win in 2012. She serves as the treasurer of the Texas Conservative View, and serves on the advisory board of The Texas Review of Law & Politics. Previously she served as Special Counsel to the United States Senate Judiciary Committee, as an Assistant Solicitor General in the Office of the Attorney General of Texas, as well as two years in private practice. She has authored over 75 articles and op-eds for prestigious publications.

She did all this and more, and is raising four children. I’m honored she agreed to join our Board of Directors and provide us insight on policy matters.

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This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at http://www.seasteading.org/2015/12/podcast-texas-lawyer-interviews-seavangelist-politically-fight-or-create/

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(Francis Brunelle) #2

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Interesting. Surprised you didn’t bring up the Texas Nationalist movement, as further evidence of societal dissatisfaction with the current politics-as-usual.

First, we need real-world communities. All politics begin with relationships. Until we have a community, we can’t build a society that declares national independence. Until we have a place to depart from, and somewhere to go, there will only be talk and more talk.

In order to build anything, we need an incubator site, a jumping-off point. We need a real-world spot, with access to shipping and supplies, room to build and a place to put-in and go out from.

Without people living the life and developing that community, then building up, into a city, and making that work, there won’t be a way to build a new State, or Nation.

Right now, we have one person building one habitat, with the intent to use that to build parts, to build more habitats. That person has nowhere to realistically work out of, no means of resupply and no means of parking the necessary land-based transport, for supplies, and no reasonable means of simply making use of such modern utilities, as the internet.

So, how do we implement that?

Right now, Kathy and I are digging into the maps and access, such as below New Orleans, but it’s going to take some sort of cooperation with a local, industrial complex.

With seasteading, unlike early America, there is no sod, or lumber to build basic shelter. Seasteading needs modern materials and modern technology. Without a supply point and a base to work from, then there is nowhere and no way to build. Until there is a means to build and supply, there is no way to create the floating community. You can’t take of with your axe, shovel and a rifle, build a soddy, cut timber for a real livable structure, hunt your food, etc.

She will need, very soon, a place that she can park her truck and a place to anchor that is relatively close to that, for resupply. Once there is a community, there, and a basic supply line, there is room for further expansion.

Why near New Orleans? Supplies and jobs. Someone can buy supplies and take a weekend, or vacation away from work, go build, until there is a finished seastead, then make the decision to leave that job and move.

Another reason for near New Orleans: The Gulf current comes straight up toward the Mississippi, then splits East and West. This area has much lower incidence of “Red Tide”, so, less worry of the very water being poisonous, as often. Despite it being a 'Hurricane Alley", it’s a matter of benefits outweighing the problems.

Why the Gulf of Mexico? Supply, resupply, and access to services. The offshore industry already has a vast supply line established, bringing food and workers to the rigs, in a routine, orderly manner, and there is already a communications network in place. then extend those supply-lines further, into International waters.

(.) #4

Are there international areas , high seas, in the Gulf of Mexico?


(Gordon Hoffman) #6

Looks like a good climate, and a good location. Could an International Sea Station have its own government or would it be beholden to many nations? I am thinking of methods of revenue. Are there breezes throughout the night on the sea or does it calm down after sunset? Maybe wave action varies as well (I wish I knew).

(Wilfried Ellmer) #7

This interview is a great starting point to talk about “Seasteading core values” the following are mentioned …

  • radical consient
  • voluntary asociations
  • people are looking for fresh ideas
  • city politics custom tailered to your taste
  • technology is at hand
  • seasteading as solution to unleash startup governments
  • solutions come from experimenting
  • create choice is the core
  • platform to try out ideas | unleash potential
  • things can not be changed from within
  • competition for governance ideas
  • monopoly prevention trough mobility
  • technology is feasible (ref 43 )
  • claim jurisdiction over the seas is a problem
  • start in shallow protected waters - then high seas
  • lower cost of structures is important ( ref 54 )
  • think of seasteads as cleanerfish ( ref 76 )
  • progress comes from variation and selection - evolution
  • burning man evolves into a gift economy
  • convert seasteading into a mainstream idea
  • politics salery based on confiscation take away freedom
  • absolute power is not prone to bring up progress
  • treat government like a market - competition avoid monopoly
  • the relation of seastead landnation will be like china - Hong Kong
  • examples are powerfull innovation comes from little examples
  • stop voting for “lesser evil” start doing better.

@joequirk - great interview - great info source !