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(Wilfried Ellmer) #141

anybody who has something “qualified” to contribute to the thread “picture the ramform” - @Matias ? for example…kat, not giving you the “lunilink” again have done that dozends of times - go and play elswhere…


(Matias Volco) #142

@ellmer not much for now, I’m working on picturing a ramform island using somewhat the opposite approach of a streamlined design of a cable-laying ship:
an amorphous almost stationary or slowly drifting island with a windward side, a leeward side apt for anchorage, and some relief as a windbreaker in between
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(Wilfried Ellmer) #143

Matias this is a great picture it shows where the forces of nature deposit materials…


(Matias Volco) #144

notice the sandbar forming in the upper left corner. A well protected bay would allow us to store sand for construction/expansion and to have a paradise beach with two coconut trees grown hydroponically in a planter and sheltered by the wind and wave breaking real estate.


#145

That’s obviously a volcanic cone remains, it’s Molokini in Hawaii, not a deposit you will find whereever you want it. It’s rock, not sand.


(Wilfried Ellmer) #146

sandbank formed by nature

floating real estate formed by man…


#147

That’s a sand bar in Maldives. Going to make sand bars in a country already concerned about rising ocean levels?

I don’t think i want to set foot on your floating boomerangs either. You may call those monstrosities “ramforms”, but you have distorted them so badly, they are boomerang shapes now.


(Wilfried Ellmer) #148

…that is why floating real estate is a better investment option than sandbank building and we need to shift investor interest to better options - goofy posters are part of the problem - not part of the solution.


#149

Woooo, you got 3 links to your domains in one sentence! Way to do SEO! You spam very well, Ellmer.


(Wilfried Ellmer) #150

shall i point to “lunilink” - or do you have a learning curve ?


#151

I put up a brick wall. Please go away.


(Matias Volco) #152

If you went away you’d feel like Ellmer went away from your life too.
“I’m not dying, it’s the World that’s going away” - someone

btw, I like the word Boomerang a lot better than Ramform, thanks for the creative input, I’d never had thought of that.


#153

All the ‘C’, ‘U’, and ‘V’ shapes might be OK for a stationary thing, but the overall platform stability comes from triangulation, like the real Ramform and Trimarans. For a moving vessel, those trailing arms and all that water will create excessive drag. The stern of a real Ramform is relatively smooth and lifts clear of the water, much like the stern of a stern-wheeler, allowing the water to flow more smoothly back to the surface, from beneath, reducing the drag, compared to the square-bottom edge of most powerboats that need a square transom, to mount an outboard, or inboard/outboard motor.


#154

Ramform Victory in drydock. You can clearly see the bulbous bow, the bilge keel and the way the stern portion tapers up, to meet the waterline, to reduce drag.


#155

And you can clearly see it doesn’t resemble a boomerang! It has no long skinny sweeping arms to catch the waves!


#156


(Wilfried Ellmer) #157

ramform hulls in other contexts than seismic vessels…

triangular is a quite general and ancient ship and boatbuilding principle … the benefit of a bow and a broad stern is known to - and used by - many designers … for thousands of years…there is not really a “ongoing discussion” about it except among the “non knowleged folk”…


#158

Of those, ONLY the Wally Hermes Yacht concept is a ramform. A triangular shape doth not a Ramform make.

I can find wedge shapes of all kinds, but that doesn’t make them Ramform, otherwise we would have Ramform cake, pie and Doritos chips, trikes, reverse-trikes, etc. The Deltoid Pumpkinseed was a triangular vhicle with specific fluid-dynamic properties, but it wasn’t a Ramform, any more that a slice of pie is.

"Ramform" takes its’ name from Roar Ramde, the Norwegian Naval Architect and designer, not the shape. If anything, a Ramform is not shaped like a ram…


#159

Wally Hermes Yacht concept #2… W.H.Y. 37m X 24m (~1/4 acre across 3 deck-levels)…

http://www.yachtopolis.com/index_details.asp?id=38160&show=0


(Matias Volco) #160

I’m not sure what you’re getting at @JL_Frusha do you recommend inserting a bulb (designed only to make a hull more hydrodynamic and go faster) near the bow of a ramform island?