Pacific Ring Weave

(.) #44

Giant waves on endless ocean
Rolling on without a motion
They curl into circle of surf
And break into countless pieces
At the shores of Reality.

Ego sail ship rides on the storm
Mast and sails are equally thorn
The anchor is out on an endless twine
It never scrapes the Rock Bottom Line.

No use hiding in captain’s lounge
No use staring maps and compass
No use, yelling at the sailors:
“The Final Tidal Weave is upon us!”

Stormy weather, much commotion.
No escape from Planet Ocean.

(bill mapezzi) #45

why don’t you like the holes in the pattern? are you trying to disturb the indigenous seafloor mud by pumping it the surface?

(.) #46

I do not mind the holes in the pattern. There is a way to do the weaving without the holes,
but I just do not see it yet. The pattern with the holes are easy. I can do that pattern.
So, I just continue with the easy stuff. Nobody else is doing ring weaving anyways.

(.) #47

I would rather not disturb the indigenous sea floor mud,
and I would rather not pump it to surface.

(bill mapezzi) #48

besides being classified "mining"and “potentially altering” 1 trillion trillionth of the habitat needed for for successful sea slug reproduction… i don’t think it would matter anyway -too many holes in even a “tight” weave. As an floating surface type breakwater the more “holes” the better. friction related. hate to be so negative with my first post here…but that is what i remember reading somewhere long ago. Supposedly a net 1 1/2 times the wavelength of a wave will take out 99.9% of that waves energy. S 3750 ft for a 20 foot swell.320 acres. you might need all the holes you can get.

(.) #49

That is exactly why I am not after the solid pattern, and I would like to work with
the pattern with the holes in it.
I suspect, wave breaking could be done, not just with a vertical surface but with a horisontal
surface too. The idea would be to gradually break the waves, and a horizontal surface
with holes in it might work the best.

(.) #50

It would be the same idea as a parachute opens.
A parachute opens gradually, to allow slower deceleration of the skydiver.
One idea would be multiple layers of horizontal sheets under water, and
the lower layers get bigger and bigger to slice the waves. And there would be
some space between the sheets.
But first I have to weave. And I think you are right, the holes are good.

(.) #51

May be a quick drawing:

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(.) #52

I will draw a better picture later. It is getting late here.

(.) #53

Progress report for interested parties:

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#54

Good luck. I really DO wish you well and I sincerely hope your attempted solution works for you.

(.) #55

Thank you very much.

(Chad Elwartowski) #56

21 posts were merged into an existing topic: Off topic thread

(.) #57

I like the shoe business. It is useful. More than just talk, go do the walk.

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#58

Cloaking by a Floating Thin Plate

Results
Equation (2.4) with rigidities obtained from (2.5) can be solved analytically. Basically we separate
the solution in the region of inside and outside of the cloak. Assuming an incoming wave and
then implementing the boundary conditions and continuity equations on the edge of the carpet,
analytical solution is found. Boundary conditions are no shear and no moment at the edge of the
buoyant carpet and also no flux condition on the cylinder. Comparison between scattered waves
and cloaked version is shown in figure 2. It shows that the scattered waves are suppressed and
cloaking is achieved.

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http://taflab.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Cloaking_iwwwfb31_50.pdf

Jeff Frusha

(.) #61

So , well yes ringweave. Instead of controversial politics, I would like to concentrate
on physical work effort.

Politics is nice to think about, but it is useless.

(bill mapezzi) #62

Ok,. I’m curious. I believe you have stopped at 12 on the weave. Are you satisfied it is not too much work? Thhe reason I’m speculating is because you inserted 2 or 3 short tires…you would have to take them back out to continue the weave?

(bill mapezzi) #63

I’m leaning more and more to that other tire chain. the simple one, can’t find your post where i saw it.Y ou slip the two circles through each other and pull. You can also just go with a 3 way tie or even pass one a hole and continue the chain on either side…if I could find you picture of the chain, i could post there instead.

(.) #64

I am just lazy. The with of the rings is important too.
When one belt is too wide it does not fit into the length of the other one.
A 4:1 ratio of length:with seems to be important.
The only way to cut the tires thinner is to be able to cut the steel mash.
I do not know, yet, how to cut the steel mash efficiently

(.) #65

I would like to be able to work with different tire sizes and
weave them into the same woven structure. Some tires are small; these produce a shorter
band and a thinner one. Other tires are bigger, and those produce a longer and thicker belt.

It would be good to able to cut belts that can be woven together so the tires do not have
be sorted for use, and this way all tires could be used.