Offshore aquaculture | realistic projects | big business | seafood | ocean colonization | ocean ranching | oceanic investment | world food security | oceanic business alliance


#24

More commercial spam from Elmo’s Association (Elmo’s Ass.) …

… just another redirect link to phony “investment” crap from Elmo’s Ass.

Time to stop pulling crap out of Elmo’s Ass. and smearing on the TSI comment threads, @Elmo.


#25


#26

There is so much crap from Elmo’s Ass. gets posted in TSI… that it get piled high and deep, and wastes time just reviewing it.


#27

It’s not as if this is a new problem.


#28

It’s an aggravating task to post documented facts, to counter his lies and misrepresentations, too.


(Wilfried Ellmer) #29

context: | ocean colonization | oceanic real estate | oceanic business development | sustainability on planet earth | breakaway civilizations | oceanic invest | get started | get connected | who i am | ramform floating city project | oceanic business alliance | investment yield 10%+ | technology limits of oceanic construction |


#30

More commercials from @Elmo’s Ass.


#31

Aquapod by Velella Aquaculture Researxh, now InnovaSea ran $140,000 per cage, in 2010

Fishing for a future | A Searsmont entrepreneur’s aquaculture innovation is welcomed in foreign waters while the U.S. plays catch up

Valdez used a Mexican government program to trade in four of his shrimp boats for $100,000 apiece and used the money to buy three AquaPods, which cost approximately $140,000 each. With the AquaPod, Valdez figures he will be able to harvest 30 tons of shrimp per cage per cycle, of which there could be as many as three a year. He says his trawlers never brought in that amount per year. But trading in his traditional boats for new-fangled fish cages was still a gamble. “It was necessary to take the risk because I’m having problems with the fishing. I’m not making business,” Valdez says, sitting on a recent morning in his office inside his company’s seafood packaging plant in the industrial section of Guaymas. “We are lots of boats, so obviously I had to take a decision of what to do. Right now we are in times to initiate something before this collapse and we have more serious problems. So, you got to start generating those options of what to do. So I thought, well, it’s the moment to change.”

http://www.mainebiz.biz/article/20100125/CURRENTEDITION/301259997/fishing-for-a-future-|-a-searsmont-entrepreneur’s-aquaculture-innovation-is-welcomed-in-foreign-waters-while-the-us-plays-catch-up


(Wilfried Ellmer) #32

Fish cages | no land contact is necessary


(Wilfried Ellmer) #33

Light Honeycomb Concrete Structure - suitable for tough oceanic fish enclosure solutions.


(Wilfried Ellmer) #34

Truss shell tissue | advanced seasteading architecture | enclosure tech | get a foodhold in ocean colonization technology |


(Wilfried Ellmer) #35

Aquaculture cages work best with some level of protection against waves .


https://discuss.seasteading.org/uploads/default/optimized/2X/1/1832822b486efc9429569bd5d509abcf05760301_1_690x310.png
Floating real estate development protecting offshore aquaculture assets against oceanic waves.

The cages most sensitive to wave damage are hosted in the protective lagoon - the tougher sphere cages can float out to unprotected waters. | see more


The whole development can grow from an “aquaculture outpost on the open sea” to a full scope oceanic city over time.


context:

Floating breakaway civilizations - beyond fish farming…oceanic business - oceanic future.


context:

Oceanic construction technology limits of concrete structures

• Projects Oceanic Business Alliance



#36

… until they are designed for offshore conditions, such as:

The SalMar project is designed for placement several miles offshore, in the waters near Norway, not sheltered waters. With oil and gas rigs already placed in the North Sea, infamous for the Draupner Event, saying fish pens work best with protection from waves becomes a ludicrous statement.

Note also, the SalMar pen is much larger than similar designs, now out of favor, but used around Spain, and is being build of HDPE pipe, not steel. This means it should be low-maintenance, and, ultimately, recyclable.

The prototype is being built and should be delivered later this year.


#37

“… over and over and over and over …”


(Wilfried Ellmer) #38

Offshore aquaculture | oceanic pasture management | projects, business, seafood, is the topic here.



#39

Actually, the TOPIC Header reads:

Offshore aquaculture | realistic projects | big business | seafood | ocean colonization | ocean ranching | oceanic investment | world food security | oceanic business alliance

Which is mostly a BS advertisement for your Ponzi/Pyramid schemes… So, should read more like:
Give Wil Ellmer your money and, preferably a turn-key business model, and you might, eventually see a percentage returned as others stupidly send money… in typical Pyramid/Ponzi fashion…


(Larry G) #40

A more appropriate link would be to the actual Ecofisk Tank or related articles, rather than to one’s own commercial spam.

http://www.offshore-mag.com/articles/print/volume-64/issue-8/construction-installation/conocophillips-paves-the-way-for-removal-of-giant-ekofisk-tank.html

Particularly to the de-commissioning:

http://www.afgruppen.com/Offshore-Services/Reference-projects/Demolition-of-Ekofisk-24-Tank-Topsides/


(Wilfried Ellmer) #41

I am the thread starter - so what is apropiate for this thread is my call - not yours.

• If you don´t like my thread, the apropiate thing would be, to open your own thread, for the topic you pretend, instead ranting on my thread, that you are not in agreement with it - isn`t that obvious ?


• The hypothesis that ranting and negativity is not a good way to move seasteading forward was coined earlier.


• I did not force you to visit my thread you did come in here. So bare with me or leave.


Thanks for the links.


Rantring, controversy, meta topics, in the cafe please which is the apropiate thread for this kind of stuff.

Kindest Regards

The thread starter


Ecofisk tank | oil storage concrete tank in the North Sea.




#42

Ekofisk is a gravity structure, please explain how that applies to Seasteading, with a goal of floating, mobility, expanding into International Waters, etc.

Nick Terdre
Contributing Editor
After years of planning, ConocoPhillips has finally begun abandonment of the Ekofisk tank on its flagship field in the Norwegian sector of the North Sea. Cleaning of the tank’s storage cells is under way, and a contractor has been chosen to remove the topsides, starting next year.
Surrounded by its protective barrier, the Ekofisk tank, 2/4 T , stands like a colossus at the center of the Ekofisk platform complex. Installed in 1973 in a water depth of around 75 m, it was the first offshore installation with a concrete gravity base. The latter is 90 m high and 89 m in diameter, and weighs 290,000 tonnes.


Troll A is the single tallest gravity-based structure ever built.
Dimensions[edit]

Continuous slip formed gravity base structure supports under construction in a Norwegian fiord. The tower cranes delivered concrete to the support cylinders during the continuous pour of concrete to create seamless walls.
The Troll A platform has an overall height of 472 metres (1,549 ft), weighs 683,600 tons (1.2 million tons with ballast)[2] and has the distinction of being the tallest and heaviest structure ever moved by mankind. The platform stands on the sea floor 303 metres (994 feet) below the surface of the sea and one of the continuous-slip-formed[3] concrete cylindrical legs (the leg containing the import and export risers) has an elevator that takes over nine minutes to travel[3] from the platform above the waves to the sea floor. The walls of Troll A’s legs are over 1 metre thick made of steel reinforced concrete formed in one continuous pour (slip forming)[3] and each is a mathematically joined composite of several conical cylinders that flares out smoothly to greater diameters at both the top and bottom, so each support is somewhat wasp-waisted viewed in profile and circular in any cross-section (see picture at right). The concrete legs must be able to withstand intense pressure so are built using a continuous flow of concrete, a lengthy process that takes 20 minutes per 5 cm laid.

Construction[edit]
Troll A was built by Norwegian Contractors for Norske Shell, with base construction beginning in July 1991[4] at a cost of 4150 million NOK,[5][6] or approximately US$650 million at the time.[7] The base and the deck were built separately, and were joined in 1995 while the base was partially submerged. The base is a Condeep gravity base structure built from reinforced concrete.


Seamounts, being the result of volcanic activity, are subject to rising, and subsiding, at the whim of geological movement. What happens when the earth shrugs, and your seamount rises, causing your gravity-base structure to topple, or subsides, causing it to sink?


(Wilfried Ellmer) #43

The Ecofisk tank is a classical case how “off the shelf concrete casting” is applied to create big industrial marine structures in the North Sea. Check on the other 50 structures of this lot and their building details here.


The methods used in these structures are summed up under heavy method .


For the field of Offshore Aquaculture, especially for free floating truss structure cages the more advanced light composit methods should be applied.


Advanced cement composites can be made weight neutral in sea water what makes them ideal for economic and durable fish enclosure cages that can stand the ambient of the open sea.

More on advanced concrete technology in Seasteading


Truss structure in printed concrete composite.



Artist Matias Volco


This picture shows how production and use of fish cages can be combined with a floating harbor support structure in the open sea.


Hypothesis:


We can definitly impove on what is implemented technology already in offshore aquaculture


It is rather about the novel use of cement bonder, fiber, and filler, combinations than the application of large scale industial concrete cast.


Sesteading will open a unrestricted development space for “special concrete engineering” that goes far beyond what is “off the shelf tech” today.


Althogh the classical concrete methods have their use in seasteading when it comes to city size (check Mullberry | Monaco Breakwater | Oostershelde | ) for smaller size, smarter composite materials will play an important role.


Especially aquaculture with its needs for enclosure cages will be a key field to drive that.


For the business community taking leadership on the new frontier the strategic need to get a foodhold in this upcomming technology is key.