Oceanic Real estate | global networking hubs | Extraterritorialized | oceanic business alliance


#101

“Normal” people don’t lie about the uses of other people’s work, claim it as their own, or claim expertise in fields they are clearly failures in…

Such as the OCD problem you have with spamming the TSI Forum, begging people to come to YOUR sites, then demanding money for the ‘privilege’?

PuhLEease… Mr. “I sank my sub” before anyone else, by under-engineering the protection of the hatch seals and with poor construction techniques…


(Wilfried Ellmer) #102

Back to topic | Oceanic Real estate | global networking hubs | Extraterritorialized

The upside of oceanic real estate for business development is also that it takes you out of reach of the sistem that is ligitating everything to a grinding halt


…lacking debate base…no change since December when we had that the last time…wrong target for your obsessions…no upside to continue this… | check: Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder Help |


[frusha...dohse specialty link](https://discuss.seasteading.org/t/oceanic-real-estate-global-networking-hubs-extraterritorialized-oceanic-business-alliance/1925/95?u=ellmer )

#103

@Elmo sank his concrete sub?

What? :open_mouth:

You mean his entire “investment” scheme and phony plans for great seasteading economic powerhouses …

… are all build upon the foundation of @Elmo’s sunken concrete sub?

Well … at least hope floats. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:


#104

Commercial crap from Elmo’s Ass. still stinks … regardless of how many threads he starts to promote his phony investment schemes.


#105


(Wilfried Ellmer) #106

Only the ocean offers vast spaces open to real estate development…


(Wilfried Ellmer) #107

• A new technology is needed to settle the oceanic space which is the about 99% of the space left for expansion of the human projects.

• Land-space can not be used further and more intense - the rivets are already popping out of the planetary life support sistem (species mass extinction).

This means only the vast and unused volume of the ocean is available

• For business, fabrication, industry installation - to satisfy the ever growing needs of mankind

• For additional settlements to accomodate the 1 billion per decade of population growth

• Spaces of freedom necessary for experiment and progress to engineer new solutions. In a interference and coding free space.


This makes seasteading an effort to settle in the unfamiliar space of the ocean...

#108

If all the habitable land on earth was divided equally, we could each have approximately 2.3 acres/.93 hectares, which could theoretically support ~60 people, if intensively, sustainably farmed.

http://www.zo.utexas.edu/courses/THOC/Texas.html

Your supposition that land cannot support the current population is invalid.


(Wilfried Ellmer) #109

An interesting counter theory worth to talk about…read this - and tell me if you think you sustained your opinion successfully, or you need to rethink it on a better info base.


#110

I already documented that using known productive methods, the earth can feed 60 times the current population, just using habitable land. If we put people into nonagricultural areas, vs pretty flatlands, turned agricultural practices to things proven sustainable and intensely productive, things would change for the better. Doing so would also take pressure off the oceans as food source.

I did NOT say it would happen. It’s also known, researchable, and documented that 1 acre of modern vertical gardening can feed up to 60,000 people, using the same high rise technology we use to build cities, meaning we could even support 120,000 times the current population, just on that same 2+ acres per person of habitable land, and even more, with strategic relocation to nonagricultural land, and reassigning land better suited to age purposes, instead of cities.

This can all be easily verified… Google is your friend.


#111

The Chinese government, apparently, agrees with @JL_Frusha’s conclusions about under-utilized farmlands.

http://theplate.nationalgeographic.com/2014/06/30/africa-and-china-agriculture-the-new-breadbasket/


(Wilfried Ellmer) #112

• The point is Species go extinct - this indicates - too much Land is Farmland already - way too much ! - sure you can expand farmland even more and accelerate extinction further - is it wise ? (kind of missed the point …)

The paradigm is farmland needs to be reduced not to be expanded for sustainability on the planet. Expansion is only feasible and potential ECO positive in the vast volumetric, bio desert, waterbody of the ocean…see ocean sphere…

The oceanic real estate thread is not the correct thread to discuss the potential expanding of farmland in Africa and its impact on accelerating mass extincion of species - if you want to discuss on that - open a apropiate thread for it please…


#113

Given the inclusion of “global networking hubs” within this thread`s topic …

… and the claim that “economy of scale is much easier on the water”

@Elmo’s desired exclusion of globalized (land-based) agriculture from this thread would be idiotic.

Unless, of course, @Elmo’s intent for starting the thread was merely to promote his phony “investment” scheme by spamming the comment threads “over and over and over and over” with his commercial posts.


#114

“over and over and over and over”

… as has been previously stated by a multitude of TSI members …

… and even the Admin. :worried:


(Wilfried Ellmer) #115

Back on topic - no nonsense posting here - please respect… the thread starter.


Important info in the context of Oceanic Real Estate…

Speaker List Tahiti Seasteading event


#116

How often are you going to edit your older comments, @ellmer

… and then pretend that you aren’t spamming the comment thread with commercials for your “investment” scheme?

Apparently, dishonesty is the only product you can consistently produce? :unamused:


#117

Even the Admins agreed that you post the same commercials “over and over and over and over”.


(Wilfried Ellmer) #118

Work-Hypothesis on this thread :


• A new technology is needed to settle the oceanic space which is the about 99% of the space left for expansion of the human projects.

• Land-space can not be used further and more intense - the rivets are already popping out of the planetary life support sistem (species mass extinction).

This means only the vast and unused volume of the ocean is available

• For business, fabrication, industry installation - to satisfy the ever growing needs of mankind

• For additional settlements to accomodate the 1 billion per decade of population growth

• Spaces of freedom necessary for experiment and progress to engineer new solutions. In a interference and coding free space.

This makes seasteading an effort to settle in the unfamiliar space of the ocean…


Shoreside Metropolis running out of development space | next logical step - floating structures |


The legs of a condeep platform are technically very similar to the slip formed core of a highrise building. They are similar in weight size and structure. What this picture shows is the feasibility of building a highrise on a floating platform.


Althogh highrise is technical feasible there is no real need for it - the ocean offers unlimited horizontal space for the real estate developer. Therefore we can expect the first oceanic floating housing structures looking rather like this.


Marine Empires | why did they not build floating cities to dominate oceanic trade | solving the technology bottleneck |
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@frusha- this is a frusha/dohse free thread, do not post here, do not troll, do not clutter nonsense do not respond to this post… The thread starter

| going Galt on Forum Umpa Lumpas | give me a Frusha - Dohse free space please | meta topics in the cafe please | lost view of normal | alleged butt in rights on threads i open | bore the auditorium to an inevitable forum death | the telenovela is just in your head | scientific disscussion approach only | special participant basket asignment | Joe Quirk on ignoring | forum dynamics | what part do you NOT understand | the need for filter on a 7.5 billion planet |


Do not respond - yust go away and open your own threads…

The thread starter


#119

Pete and repeat sittin’ on a log
Pete fell off, who was left?

Already documented the fallacy of your claim that the available land cannot support further increases of population…


#120

Repeat … repeat … repeat.
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