Naval Forts and the Pacific


#21

Location, location, location…

Big difference in costs for every single land-based import is going to be the fuel and infrastructure to import everything.

Exports will also face the same issue.

A ‘small’ seastead will obviously handle this differently, but loading/unloading from a cargo vessel will require an awful lot of that capacity.

International waters, 200 NM out makes for an unbelievable cost increase, as demonstrated by the lack of mega-container-ship capacity in Hawaii, covered in other recent topics.


(Gavin Brown) #22

Brilliant suggestions. I wouldn’t go with laundromat forts, I’d stick with spitbank type. Built a solid core foundation and then floating out arms/ piers to extend the size of the island. Now with an increased size and purpose built you can design in all the features you need: water purification, permaculture,etc. My project is to purchase Haile Sand Fort off the east coast of the UK as a headquarters for Seasteading UK. From there host a hotel, sustainability & education centre. Plus take advantage of the hexagonal base and open the site up for experimental projects.


(Matias Volco) #23

nonesense. Fischer Island is very small but it’s loved by high upkeep people (including women, after all it was a woman’s land from the beginning) and because of its proximity to a large coastal city, none of those challenges apply. Similar situations in gradient all the way to Key West, Mustique, and Bora Bora.


#24

Fisher Island wasn’t even an Island, until 1906, when the government cut a channel and severed it from being a peninsula. Rosemary’s Cottage was built by Vanderbuilt, for his stepdaughter, but the island wasn’t a ‘womans’ place, as such. Just her studio, and cottage. The rest was Vanderbuilt’s real estate development. Sure, Rosamund, his wife, Rosemary’s mother, inherited and sold the island, but it wasn’t hers, until he died, and then she sold it the very next year.

Aside from the Quarantine Station, and Biology Lab, it was primarily a resort development, the whole time.


#25

I missed the earlier threads on this but wouldn’t the import cost problem that Hawaii and other island nations face be solved if a seastead was built on an existing trade route? Then you’d just need to unload containers from ships that are already passing through.


#26

The problem is one of capacity. In order to take advantage of the mega-container ships, you need to be able to load and unload them.


#27

Why couldn’t a feeder ship be used for the loading/unloading process on the passing by megacontainer ship?


#28

Oh, it works, but Hawaii is the best example. Goods ordered travel by mega, to the Continental US, transfers to carriers, then to Hawaii. Those carriers have to have an outbound load, to be profitable. There’s the rub.


#29

Right, so place the seastead near the shipping lanes, transfer cargo to feeder, and use feeder as staging area for local distribution.


(Mariusz) #30

That’s actually not a bad idea for a business that would help in our cause.


#31

But, again, you have to be able to completely offload and reload those Mega-carriers, protect the cargo and the carriers from weather, and thuggery.


(Larry G) #32

Hawaii is on an existing trade route. In fact, it’s the reason for some existing trade routes. That hasn’t even come close to making costs equivalent.


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