How a permanent human presence in the deep ocean might look like

(Wilfried Ellmer) #1

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Despite more than a century of research, most of the deep sea remains a mystery. But oceanographer John Delaney at the University of Washington has a plan to change that. “We need a permanent presence in the ocean,” he says. “But with the technology we’re currently using – satellites, ships, submersibles – it’s like trying to do particle physics without an accelerator.” The approach, dubbed the Neptune Project, would string 10 semiautomated geobiological labs across the Juan de Fuca tectonic plate off Washington, 8,000 feet underwater. Each would have cameras, lights, robots, and sensors, all connected to the surface via optical cable to transmit data on everything from the biomass of microbes to the effects of ocean temperature on weather. It might actually happen: Researchers at British Columbia’s University of Victoria are scheduled to begin building their 500-mile segment in 2007, and this fall US researchers are hoping for a $150 million grant to fund another 900 miles. Dive in and take a look.

– Doug Merlino / Wired

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Seasteads will of course be the platforms on which this human presence in the ocean takes place. There is business to do on may levels and in many fields.

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(Jonas Smith) #2

This is no longer called NEPTUNE. It is now the Regional Scale Nodes program within the National Science Foundation’s Ocean Observatories Initiative.

I don’t know what this has to do with a “permanent human presence in the deep ocean” because no part of this project has humans on the water. All these automated sites will stream data in real-time to shore stations.

It is projected to cost US$386 million in construction alone, and an additional US$55 million per year for operations and maintenance with a total projected cost of US$1.8 billion over it’s 25-year span.

That’s with no people. Now imagine how much more expensive it would be to have manned installations…

EDIT: BTW that link doesn’t go to the Wired article like you would expect, it links to ellmer’s site.


Also, the usa has stated it’s desire to make those smoker sites be international marine reserves, because they are concentrations of marine life. This will put them off limits to commercialisation and industry. I expect the usa will use them as power for SOSUS networks.

(stephen russell) #4

shouldnt we have some " ConShelf" like stations undersea then have structures deeper since Conshelf can be Fwd deployment hubs for Deep Sea living alone.
The Conshelfs would be 2-7X size of 60s Costeau models alone & linked to surface Seastead Island base.
Under each Seastead can be Undersea base for 300?? then deeper for say 50.
& done worldwide.
Thats our Undersea Presence Fulltime from above & test out Conshelf Units at: Catalina Island LA CA,
Hawaii, PR, USVI alone prior expanding worldwide.

(Wilfried Ellmer) #5

Conshelf is interesting but it was in its core a saturation dive experiment. Today the oceanic industry is in favor of telepresence - things like deep sea pylolysis are probably a domain of submarine robotics

(.) #6

No need to touch th seabed.
Electrolysys of seawater in the deep.
It is ok in the water column.


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