FAD Fish Aggregation Device


I posted that in one of the FLIP or possibly the ‘Inside the box’ thread, where I designed the telescoping spar, using ISO shipping tank pressure vessels.

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A telescoping spar seems to me a bit complicated to build and to maintain.

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Seems like, for some reason not yet clear to me, that a tube like
vessel would be the easiest to build. I mean a semi submersible flip ship.

I think, a catamaran or a trimaran. And it could be a monohull.
A catamaran is difficult to right after a capsize. A flip ship catamaran
might be easier to right with the flip method, and it would probably not
capsize in the horizontal position.

From a horizontal right, a flip ship catamaran could capsize, than go to vertical
mode, and come back from vertical mode to horizontal mode in the righted position.

Or something like that.


Wasn’t conceiveded as a moving thing, but rather that the pieces fit inside each other for transport, then get extended and fixed into position, using flanges and whatever preferred means of connection, bolt-&-gasket, welded, etc.

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I ment the catamaran would probably not capsize in the vertical position.


FLIP has never capsized, either… Over 50 years of service and still going…

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For a seastead, probably both are necessary, a platform and a boat,
paralel to landlubbers, a house and a car.

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I really like this artwork; can our money look like this?

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Sure, you can choose your money look like whatever you want it to be.
Though, I am not interested about starting any currency.

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It is low-lying and largely barren, save for scattered grasses and a few clumps of coconut palms. A small volcanic outcrop rising to 29 m (95 ft) on its south-east side is referred to as “Clipperton Rock”.[2] The atoll has been occupied at various times by guano miners, would-be settlers or military personnel, mostly from Mexico, which claimed it until international arbitration awarded it to France in 1931.

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The important thing, in the middle of the ocean, is to be able to open
the door of the head (bathroom) from inside, when the boat is upside down.

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It is also important for a subsurface vessel to stop sinking and control flotation
in waters 8000 feet deep.

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I often forget about my talent of not getting seasick.
I have no merit in it. It is just how it is.
Others are not so fortunate. I had a lesson yesterday.

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So basically FAD as a next step in seasteading.
Fish Aggregating Device.
A boat or any floating structure is a liability.
It costs to dock a boat. Mooring has no monthly fee.
Mooring in deep water has no monthly fee. The bigger the boat is the more it costs
to keep it somewhere. Upon acquisition of a boat, the owner of the boat is ultimately
responsible for the safekeeping of the boat.
I do not know much about mooring. I am going to develop some experience about
mooring floating things in deep water.
I think, first I need something on the seabed. Then I need something, like a rope,
from the weight that is on the seabed to the surface of the water.
Then I need a buy to keep one end of the rope on the surface.
Building an FAD is probably very similar process. An FAD would probably have
some structure somewhere on the rope between the seabed and the surface.

Later an FAD could be used as mooring with modification or without modification.

Requires minimal explanation what it is and why building it. (for fishing).

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Planning ahead is necessary, location and type of vessel for mooring it in harsh


That’s why I’m figuring on using a ship-like hull. It needs to be stable in rough weather, and to do that, it should also turn with the wind and current, like a weather vane, so it is always pointed into whatever is coming.

As for a FAD… Anything that floats is an FAD. If you get off on your own, your boat will be one, especially if anchored/moored out in deeper water.

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I am glad that we agree on a common point. Or do I assume too much?